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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52659</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jasper, I completely agree with your interpretation of the Senate Resolution as referencing two citizen parents and &quot;if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens.&quot;

However I do not think this resolution was meant to exclude persons born in the states, regardless of their parentage, from natural born status.

To take &quot;if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens&quot; and turn it around to say &quot;if they are natural born citizens then they are born to American citizens anywhere in the world&quot; would be the formal logical fallacy of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;affirming the consequent&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jasper, I completely agree with your interpretation of the Senate Resolution as referencing two citizen parents and &#8220;if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>However I do not think this resolution was meant to exclude persons born in the states, regardless of their parentage, from natural born status.</p>
<p>To take &#8220;if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens&#8221; and turn it around to say &#8220;if they are natural born citizens then they are born to American citizens anywhere in the world&#8221; would be the formal logical fallacy of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent" rel="nofollow">&#8220;affirming the consequent&#8221;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper James</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52656</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the Senate Resolution on NBC for McCain which I will leave for people to check out.

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

Its pretty clear that congress understands the term to mean Children Born of American Citizens. It could be that perhaps you wish to maintain your perspective for your own reasons. 

Even Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), says &quot;Based on the understanding of the pertinent sources of constitutional meaning, it is widely believed that if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens. &quot; He did not say -  &quot;born of a Foreign Father and An American Citizen&quot;. He said - &quot;born to American Citizens&quot;.  Notice American Citizens is Plural. 

Further he said &quot;Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen&quot;. Again - American Citizens phrase.  I think the case of Obama is doubtful because his father was not an American Citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the Senate Resolution on NBC for McCain which I will leave for people to check out.</p>
<p><a href="http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html" rel="nofollow">http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html</a></p>
<p>Its pretty clear that congress understands the term to mean Children Born of American Citizens. It could be that perhaps you wish to maintain your perspective for your own reasons. </p>
<p>Even Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), says &#8220;Based on the understanding of the pertinent sources of constitutional meaning, it is widely believed that if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens. &#8221; He did not say &#8211;  &#8220;born of a Foreign Father and An American Citizen&#8221;. He said &#8211; &#8220;born to American Citizens&#8221;.  Notice American Citizens is Plural. </p>
<p>Further he said &#8220;Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen&#8221;. Again &#8211; American Citizens phrase.  I think the case of Obama is doubtful because his father was not an American Citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52599</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to see any site challenging Obama&#039;s qualifications for President that does not have significant misinformation on it. A Google search for obama citizenship yields over 2.2 million hits--meaning I have not read all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to see any site challenging Obama&#8217;s qualifications for President that does not have significant misinformation on it. A Google search for obama citizenship yields over 2.2 million hits&#8211;meaning I have not read all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: TRUTH</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52567</link>
		<dc:creator>TRUTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful patting yourself on the back you might pull something, and while you pointing that finger look at your hand, there are three more fingers pointing back at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful patting yourself on the back you might pull something, and while you pointing that finger look at your hand, there are three more fingers pointing back at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52565</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually dislike web sites dedicated to trashing someone (whoever it is) and I am generally well disposed to those who defend others unfairly attacked. If all I&#039;m reading about is &quot;Obama Birth Certificate&quot; hits on Google, then I&#039;m very likely to make the kind of comments that Truth observes.

There is a lot more to me that that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually dislike web sites dedicated to trashing someone (whoever it is) and I am generally well disposed to those who defend others unfairly attacked. If all I&#8217;m reading about is &#8220;Obama Birth Certificate&#8221; hits on Google, then I&#8217;m very likely to make the kind of comments that Truth observes.</p>
<p>There is a lot more to me that that.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, every now and then I have stoop down to democratic levels to make a point.  I apologize, I&#039;ll behave for a while longer now.     But no, I know every pro-Obama statement is not biased.   It still doesn&#039;t change the fact every pro-Obama article you read is this informative piece of good writing, and each anti-Obama article is a conspirator blowing smoke out their pie hole.       BUT, I&#039;m ok with that, that is human nature...you like the person and see things through a different shade of glasses than I.    That doesn&#039;t make you bad, or wrong, just different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, every now and then I have stoop down to democratic levels to make a point.  I apologize, I&#8217;ll behave for a while longer now.     But no, I know every pro-Obama statement is not biased.   It still doesn&#8217;t change the fact every pro-Obama article you read is this informative piece of good writing, and each anti-Obama article is a conspirator blowing smoke out their pie hole.       BUT, I&#8217;m ok with that, that is human nature&#8230;you like the person and see things through a different shade of glasses than I.    That doesn&#8217;t make you bad, or wrong, just different.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth, are you saying?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The article is pro-Obama
therefore the article is by someone who voted for Obama
therefore the article lacks value due to its pro-Obama bias.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is logically equivalent to every pro-Obama statement is biased! 

Such a view reminds me of a letter I got once in response to my criticism of a Soviet reference book: &quot;only Marxist-Leninist philosophy is objective and scientific&quot;.

What I find most interesting in the article is the connections of particular anti-Obama conspiracy theorists to other conspiracy theories. I had no idea that Jerome Corsi was tied up in other conspiracy theories--I thought he just never got over the Vietnam War protests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth, are you saying?</p>
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The article is pro-Obama<br />
therefore the article is by someone who voted for Obama<br />
therefore the article lacks value due to its pro-Obama bias.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That is logically equivalent to every pro-Obama statement is biased! </p>
<p>Such a view reminds me of a letter I got once in response to my criticism of a Soviet reference book: &#8220;only Marxist-Leninist philosophy is objective and scientific&#8221;.</p>
<p>What I find most interesting in the article is the connections of particular anti-Obama conspiracy theorists to other conspiracy theories. I had no idea that Jerome Corsi was tied up in other conspiracy theories&#8211;I thought he just never got over the Vietnam War protests.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52560</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got $500 that says I can guess correct who Alex Koppelman voted for.   Hows come when it is a positive article for Obama it IS informative.  He has done nothing more than speculate the opposite direction FOR his candidate, then attempt to back it up with a nice story about conspiracy theory.   Steven Speilberg writes good stuff also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got $500 that says I can guess correct who Alex Koppelman voted for.   Hows come when it is a positive article for Obama it IS informative.  He has done nothing more than speculate the opposite direction FOR his candidate, then attempt to back it up with a nice story about conspiracy theory.   Steven Speilberg writes good stuff also.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/ocd-rewrites-history/comment-page-1/#comment-52558</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salon.com published a very informative article about Obama Citizenship and the psychology of conspiracy theories at: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salon.com published a very informative article about Obama Citizenship and the psychology of conspiracy theories at: <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/</a></p>
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