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		<title>By: Usah I.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Usah I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved reading this and I dont really like to read :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading this and I dont really like to read <img src='http://www.blogordie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of you can&#039;t see that the blocks in Row 7 pertain to the mother&#039;s usual residence and not the place of birth, then you are blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of you can&#8217;t see that the blocks in Row 7 pertain to the mother&#8217;s usual residence and not the place of birth, then you are blind.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyFyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyFyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t see the block where it says, Foreign Country, you HAVE to be BLIND!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t see the block where it says, Foreign Country, you HAVE to be BLIND!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth said: &quot;I cleared up a big error, and THE ONLY error you whined about for almost a week [actually 3 days]. YOu know what, this NEW stuff you bring to light, let me tell you what that is like. I recall clearly SOMEONE saying “Oh, this Birth Certificate issue is just one thing. After it they will complain about something else, then something else…”.&quot;

You will see these factual errors mentioned in material already posted on this site in one form or another. For example, the Obama grandmother tape is here http://www.blogordie.com/2008/11/the-smoking-grandmother/ and Indonesian Citizenship here: http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/obama-citizenship-denial-final-summary/ . I just summarized them for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth said: &#8220;I cleared up a big error, and THE ONLY error you whined about for almost a week [actually 3 days]. YOu know what, this NEW stuff you bring to light, let me tell you what that is like. I recall clearly SOMEONE saying “Oh, this Birth Certificate issue is just one thing. After it they will complain about something else, then something else…”.&#8221;</p>
<p>You will see these factual errors mentioned in material already posted on this site in one form or another. For example, the Obama grandmother tape is here <a href="http://www.blogordie.com/2008/11/the-smoking-grandmother/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogordie.com/2008/11/the-smoking-grandmother/</a> and Indonesian Citizenship here: <a href="http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/obama-citizenship-denial-final-summary/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/obama-citizenship-denial-final-summary/</a> . I just summarized them for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth said: &quot;Are you absolutely SERIOUS?!?! the POLICE?!! lmao. &quot;

Think about it: police can investigate things, question people, bring charges, get search warrants. Prosecutors can subpoena evidence. 

All these lawsuits are (so far) going exactly nowhere.

So are you laughing because all the &quot;fraud&quot; and &quot;federal crime&quot; comments on anti-Obama web sites are laughable?

The only drawback to filing a police report is that there are consequences to filing a false police report, whereas there doesn&#039;t seem to be any for filing a frivolous lawsuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth said: &#8220;Are you absolutely SERIOUS?!?! the POLICE?!! lmao. &#8221;</p>
<p>Think about it: police can investigate things, question people, bring charges, get search warrants. Prosecutors can subpoena evidence. </p>
<p>All these lawsuits are (so far) going exactly nowhere.</p>
<p>So are you laughing because all the &#8220;fraud&#8221; and &#8220;federal crime&#8221; comments on anti-Obama web sites are laughable?</p>
<p>The only drawback to filing a police report is that there are consequences to filing a false police report, whereas there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any for filing a frivolous lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: TRUTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRUTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cleared up a big error, and THE ONLY error you whined about for almost a week.   YOu know what, this NEW stuff you bring to light, let me tell you what that is like.   I recall clearly SOMEONE saying &quot;Oh, this Birth Certificate issue is just one thing.  After it they will complain about something else, then something else...&quot;.       

HEY POT, I Hear the KETTLE CALLING!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cleared up a big error, and THE ONLY error you whined about for almost a week.   YOu know what, this NEW stuff you bring to light, let me tell you what that is like.   I recall clearly SOMEONE saying &#8220;Oh, this Birth Certificate issue is just one thing.  After it they will complain about something else, then something else&#8230;&#8221;.       </p>
<p>HEY POT, I Hear the KETTLE CALLING!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Truth, you did a good deed today. You got false information off the web. And I suppose I will have to change my article a little and confess to breaking the commandment about bearing false witness. [Sigh]

Looking further at http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/obama/

We see some misleading stuff under the title: &quot;HAWAII OFFICIALS REFUSE TO CONFIRM OBAMA HAWAII BIRTH&quot;. The text that follows quotes Janice Okubo in the Chicago Tribune ( their link to article doesn&#039;t work, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-birth-certificate-30-oct30,0,1742172.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THIS ONE: Obama Birth Rumor Debunked&lt;/a&gt; does) as saying that she, was not permitted to confirm the authenticity of the certificate released by the Obama campaign.&quot; And that&#039;s true, but they conveniently omit that the same person said that to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Bureau of the same newspaper&lt;/a&gt; the Director of Health was saying that Obama was born in Hawaii.

They say: &quot;Mr. Obama has only proffered a discredited 2007 computer-generated,  unsigned&quot; failing to note that in the very Chicago tribune story cited above, the Hawaiian spokesperson says of Obama&#039;s certificate &quot;It looks exactly the same as my own birth certificate,&quot; and of course that the certificate is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_7.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;signed&lt;/a&gt;.

Then they say: &quot;an audio recording of Obama&#039;s grandmother stating she attended Obama&#039;s birth in KENYA.) &quot; which is true, but in context the &quot;Obama&quot; she was talking about was Barack Obama Sr., her stepson, not Barack Obama II, her grandson. The transcript link is there for you to read.

Then they go on to say that FactCheck.org made a patently false statement about what Hawaii officials said, citing the argument at the top of the page, which we see is not true.

So, Mr. Truth, do you want to help them clean up the rest of their errors about Obama? Oh, but if they cleaned it up, there wouldn&#039;t be anything left but that old Indonesian school record which has no bearing on Obama&#039;s citizenship anyway. I guess they should just delete the whole page and go back to their real forte, fighting the Income Tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Truth, you did a good deed today. You got false information off the web. And I suppose I will have to change my article a little and confess to breaking the commandment about bearing false witness. [Sigh]</p>
<p>Looking further at <a href="http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/obama/</a></p>
<p>We see some misleading stuff under the title: &#8220;HAWAII OFFICIALS REFUSE TO CONFIRM OBAMA HAWAII BIRTH&#8221;. The text that follows quotes Janice Okubo in the Chicago Tribune ( their link to article doesn&#8217;t work, but <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-birth-certificate-30-oct30,0,1742172.story" rel="nofollow">THIS ONE: Obama Birth Rumor Debunked</a> does) as saying that she, was not permitted to confirm the authenticity of the certificate released by the Obama campaign.&#8221; And that&#8217;s true, but they conveniently omit that the same person said that to the <a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html" rel="nofollow">Washington Bureau of the same newspaper</a> the Director of Health was saying that Obama was born in Hawaii.</p>
<p>They say: &#8220;Mr. Obama has only proffered a discredited 2007 computer-generated,  unsigned&#8221; failing to note that in the very Chicago tribune story cited above, the Hawaiian spokesperson says of Obama&#8217;s certificate &#8220;It looks exactly the same as my own birth certificate,&#8221; and of course that the certificate is <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_7.jpg" rel="nofollow">signed</a>.</p>
<p>Then they say: &#8220;an audio recording of Obama&#8217;s grandmother stating she attended Obama&#8217;s birth in KENYA.) &#8221; which is true, but in context the &#8220;Obama&#8221; she was talking about was Barack Obama Sr., her stepson, not Barack Obama II, her grandson. The transcript link is there for you to read.</p>
<p>Then they go on to say that FactCheck.org made a patently false statement about what Hawaii officials said, citing the argument at the top of the page, which we see is not true.</p>
<p>So, Mr. Truth, do you want to help them clean up the rest of their errors about Obama? Oh, but if they cleaned it up, there wouldn&#8217;t be anything left but that old Indonesian school record which has no bearing on Obama&#8217;s citizenship anyway. I guess they should just delete the whole page and go back to their real forte, fighting the Income Tax.</p>
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		<title>By: TRUTH</title>
		<link>http://www.blogordie.com/2008/12/wethepeoplefoundationorg-caught-in-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-52536</link>
		<dc:creator>TRUTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOPSSS... that was supposed to say  &quot;hello... &quot;.    and not hell.    hahaha..  darn keyboard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOPSSS&#8230; that was supposed to say  &#8220;hello&#8230; &#8220;.    and not hell.    hahaha..  darn keyboard</p>
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		<title>By: TRUTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRUTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you absolutely SERIOUS?!?!   the POLICE?!!    lmao.     

OH yeah, I called your favorite Website today.  First time I left a message, no response by the time I got off work so I called from my cell in the car and they answer.... &quot;hell WTPF, Bob Schulz can I help you.&quot;     I thought that was kinda kewl.       He recalled receiving my email and at first didn&#039;t even exactly understand what I was talking about, but was receptive and was pulling their website up as we talked.   

Once he got the site up he seen what I was talking about I could hear the embarrassment in his voice, and said he would have it fixed right away.   
I didn&#039;t question Mr. Schulz, but there isn&#039;t just 1 person working there, and it was obvious by his words he was unsure what exactly was even on their front page.   I don&#039;t know who &quot;THE MAN&quot; is there, and I don&#039;t care.    But I bet they look closer from now on before they post another error.

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/default.htm

Whoever did their home page probably got in trouble today or doesn&#039;t have a job anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you absolutely SERIOUS?!?!   the POLICE?!!    lmao.     </p>
<p>OH yeah, I called your favorite Website today.  First time I left a message, no response by the time I got off work so I called from my cell in the car and they answer&#8230;. &#8220;hell WTPF, Bob Schulz can I help you.&#8221;     I thought that was kinda kewl.       He recalled receiving my email and at first didn&#8217;t even exactly understand what I was talking about, but was receptive and was pulling their website up as we talked.   </p>
<p>Once he got the site up he seen what I was talking about I could hear the embarrassment in his voice, and said he would have it fixed right away.<br />
I didn&#8217;t question Mr. Schulz, but there isn&#8217;t just 1 person working there, and it was obvious by his words he was unsure what exactly was even on their front page.   I don&#8217;t know who &#8220;THE MAN&#8221; is there, and I don&#8217;t care.    But I bet they look closer from now on before they post another error.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/default.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/default.htm</a></p>
<p>Whoever did their home page probably got in trouble today or doesn&#8217;t have a job anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth said: &quot;GEE, here we have a Dirty Politician, SAY it isn’t SO!! Democrats don’t do bad things, they don’t try to sell a seat for personnel gain, or God forbid have a document altered for personnel gain, NO WAY!! Those things just don’t happen in the world of “birth certificate professionalism”, at least not that we know about.&quot;

I think the lesson to be learned here is not that there are dirty politicians. We all knew that. The lesson to be learned is that there are mechanisms within our political system to deal with dirty politicians. It&#039;s not the job of bloggers to bug the governor&#039;s office (or examine birth certificates).

If someone thinks Obama is using a forged birth certificate,  why don&#039;t they just call the police? I see all these web sites yelling &quot;FRAUD!&quot; and all these lawsuits. Why are we seeing no police reports? Makes you go &quot;hmmmmmm&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth said: &#8220;GEE, here we have a Dirty Politician, SAY it isn’t SO!! Democrats don’t do bad things, they don’t try to sell a seat for personnel gain, or God forbid have a document altered for personnel gain, NO WAY!! Those things just don’t happen in the world of “birth certificate professionalism”, at least not that we know about.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the lesson to be learned here is not that there are dirty politicians. We all knew that. The lesson to be learned is that there are mechanisms within our political system to deal with dirty politicians. It&#8217;s not the job of bloggers to bug the governor&#8217;s office (or examine birth certificates).</p>
<p>If someone thinks Obama is using a forged birth certificate,  why don&#8217;t they just call the police? I see all these web sites yelling &#8220;FRAUD!&#8221; and all these lawsuits. Why are we seeing no police reports? Makes you go &#8220;hmmmmmm&#8221;.</p>
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