WeThePeopleFoundation.org caught in OCD lie careless error.

I’m the first to say that an anti-Obama organization telling a lie bearing false information is hardly news; it’s more the rule than the exception, but this one is so blatant and so easily blown that it really MUST be shown up.

The home page [since changed after the error was pointed by a commenter here] has this blown up image of block 7c from a 1963 Hawaiian Birth Certificate captioned: “County and State or Foreign Country” [emphasis mine]” and next to it they say: “Note that the birth “Certificate” provides a field where one can register a “FOREIGN” birth in Hawaii”.

The Hawaiian Certificate of Live birth is too blurry to read on the home page, but the larger version here is clear enough: blocks 7a-g are the “Usual residence of the mother”, not the Place of Birth. The Place of birth is in block 6a, whose caption says: “City, town or rural location”. There’s nothing about a foreign country.

They showed the mother’s residence block as “proof” that the place of birth could be foreign. Of course foreign-born births couldn’t be registered in Hawaii until 1982, 21 years after Barack Obama’s own birth was registered but truth or accuracy doesn’t seem to be the intent of WeThePeopleFoundation.

Just in case We the “lying” “error prone” People Foundation changes their home page, I captured the original, and it’s available here. An old style Hawaiian birth certificate is here.

[I have now determined that this fake issue goes back the Alan Keyes lawsuit in California. WeThePeopleFoundation.org probably copied it from somewhere else.]

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Obama Citizenship Denial – Final Summary

One need but look at my blog to see how much time I have personally wasted on Obama Citizenship Denial. This subject has now moved to the “conspiracy theory” world (where long-resolved objections are repeated, and evidence dismissed).  Most of what’s written on this subject is carp, but I want to summarize what I find were the main issues, and as Shakespeare says, “by opposing, end them”.

  • Obama Birth Certificate Denial – Barack Obama posted a scanned image of a birth certificate on his web site and provided images to others. FactCheck.org handled the certificate and published close-up photos of it on their web site. Objections to the Certificate include:
    • The Certificate is a forgery.
      • A string of anonymous individuals claiming expertise, notably one TechDude and a Dr. Rod Polarik (not a real name?), claim indisputable and incontrovertible proof of forgery. The problem here is that none of the self-proclaimed experts have access to to the physical copy of Obama certificate, nor do they have access to technical information on how Hawaiian birth certificates are produced. The result is mostly guesswork comparing scanned images created with with differing software and hardware. Polarik’s analysis directly contradicts TechDude, and Polarik’s own analysis is based on unreasonable assumptions (like Hawaii only owns one state seal embosser and only one registrar rubber stamp). The Hawaii Department of Health issued a press release saying that the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health and the Registrar of Vital Statistics examined the original certificate held by the State and announced that it was filed according to law. If what Obama published were a forgery, I cannot conceive of these high officials (in a Republican administration) failing to say something. Of course I can’t conceive of a US Senator forging a birth certificate either. Comments by the two examiners sound like exchanges of posturing adolescents than serious scientists. For further information debunking the forensics see:
    • The Certificate “proves nothing”
      This comes from the misreading of various Hawaiian laws, confusion over Hawaiian Homelands, and one real bit of Hawaiian law about registering infants born out of state to residents. That law is §338-17.8 Certificates for children born out of State. However, the law wasn’t passed until 1982, two decades after Obama’s birth, and anyway Obama’s birth certificate says quite plainly that the location of his birth was Honolulu.
    • Obama won’t release his “real certificate”
      This theory relies on the fact that the certificate Obama posted is a certified computer abstract of his birth information, not a photocopy of the record filed by the hospital at his birth and registered by the state. It suggests that one is “real” and one is useless. Hawaiian law says otherwise: §338-13: “Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original” including those produced by “computer printout”.
    • The certificate has been altered
      This argument goes something like: “The Obama Certificate shows what Hawaiian records say NOW, but the record could have been changed and the original say something quite different.” This possibility is excluded by Hawaiian law which requires all certificates so changed to be “marked distinctly” as “altered” (§338-16).
    • Obama’s grandmother in Kenya says Obama was born there, and that she was present
      The grandmother tape actually says that she was present at the birth of “her son” (Barak Obama Sr), not her grandson. You might say, it makes no sense for her to say that she was present at the birth of her own son, but actually Sarah Obama is not Barak’s biological mother, but rather his step mother. In an African village it would not be unusual for many women of the village to be present at a birth. (See also my article, “The Smoking Grandmother”.)
    • Obama is hiding something
      The important thing, the Constitutional requirement, is that Obama be born in the USA and that’s all that matters.
  • Obama Lost His Citizenship
    Here we travel down the twisted road of misinterpretations of immigration law. I know more about birth certificates, but I will present some information on the second fork of Obama Citizenship Denial. 

     

    • Obama was not a natural-born citizen because he was born with dual US-British citizenship
      This is the essence of the Donofrio lawsuit [now refused by the US Supreme Court]. It claims that according to British law since Obama’s father was a British citizen, then so was his son by jus sanguinis, and this is true. The argument then says says that undivided loyalty was the foundation for the “natural born” clause in the Constitution — that a President must be American both by soil and by blood. Of course, the Constitution doesn’t say any such thing and has never been interpreted in that way. In essence, the claim says all children of immigrants (or even one) has divided loyalty and cannot be president. The Supreme Court (in United States v Wong Kim Ark) has also affirmed that anyone born in the United (with the usual exceptions for diplomets, etc) are citizens. All competent legal opinion agrees that being born in the United States is sufficient to be natural born, and MOST competent legal opinion holds that just having one or more US citizen parents alone is sufficient. A number of law school citations appear at the end of this article to back up my conclusion about legal opinion.
    • Obama lost his citizenship by becoming an Indonesian Citizen
      The argument from the Berg lawsuit goes that when Obama became an Indonesian citizen (a country that doesn’t allow dual citizenship) he must have given up his US Citizenship (and made himself no longer “natural born”). Note that there is no Indonesian government documentation I know of that Obama ever became an Indonesian citizen. Whatever Indonesian law might say, US law does allow dual citizenship, and makes it virtually impossible for a small child to renounce his citizenship and impossible for a parent to do it for him (Obama left Indonesia at age 10). Some may argue that the relevant law is what was in force at the time, the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, but that doesn’t work either for several reasons too complicated for this summary, but detailed here.

I think that covers it. Those who want to research further can look up the sources in the links in this article. As for me, unless something new surfaces, I’m done.

References:

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Burden of Proof

I got a copy of a letter today that said, in part,

Even if he is sworn in on January 20, Barack Obama will not legally be President of the United States, unless he can prove that he is a “natural born citizen”.

The fact of the matter is, Barack Obama has presented evidence that he was born in Hawaii, an official certification of the facts of his birth from his home state, a certification which BY LAW is prima facie evidence of those facts. Therefore, it is the responsibility of anyone who thinks otherwise to prove their claims.

If the birth certificate is a forgery, then prove it. If Obama was born in Kenya, prove it. If Hawaiian law allows false statements on birth certificates, prove it.  If dual citizenship at birth negates “natural born” status, prove it. If Obama lost his citizenship in Indonesia, prove it. The list is long and I needn’t belabor the point further. If there any challenges to his citizenship prove them.

People have a right to file lawsuits. That is how proof is determined in the public arena. Proof cannot, however, be assessed over the Internet. Internet trials are just the trading of a mixture of information and misinformation, with no rules of evidence, and no referee.

To those who think Barack Obama is not qualified to be president, you are entitled to your opinion, but the United States is a place where we do things by the rule of law. If you want to exclude Barack Obama from being president, I suggest you hire a very good lawyer or write your congressman. Our Constitution doesn’t provide for “trial by blog”.

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Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!

I have been privately wondering exactly why the smearbots have been clamoring for a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate. Any reasonable person expects that it will be 100% consistent with the birth certificate we have all grown to know and love. The obvious logic says that once this document comes out, their case falls apart, so why destroy themselves?

The answer popped into my mailbox this morning, and it is highly instructive on how the smear campaign works. The answer comes from another document, Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration. Some unnamed “former federal agent” through a Freedom of Information Act request obtained the form where Barack Obama, fulfilling his legal obligation, registered for the draft. Wow, somebody got the document and the document says what is supposed to say! But…

The forensic flyspeck examiners are all over this thing, claiming irregular postal stamps, funny signatures, date errors, document filing number inconsistencies, and who knows what else. You can see the whole thing on Debbie Schlussel’s site.

The point here is that hardly any of us knows squat about selective service law, postal regulations or federal document locator numbers. (Just like most folks won’t know how to read the Hawaii long form birth record when it comes out.) All sorts of “claims of irregularities” are made about the selective service document by anonymous persons (but anonymous persons with anonymously claimed expertise), including (you guessed it) a federal conspiracy. Ignorance is the playground of the smearbots: whether ignorance of document use, international law, constitutional law, immigration law, vital records policy, postal regulations, selective service law, federal document handling procedures or Hawaiian law, the smearbots can say almost anything and only the hardiest Fact Checkers could begin to hope to track it all down.

But I say, when you’ve caught the smearbots a dozen times in their lies, does it make sense to even listen to them any more. In the fable, the little boy only got to cry “wolf” two times.

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OCD Crowd’s Next Gambit

The forensic document experts were exposed as impostors and incompetents. The Hawaiian foreign birth registration law, Hawaiian Homelands Act, and rules about altered birth certificates not being so marked have all been shown bogus. Attempts to redefine “natural born citizen” prove unconvincing to people who stayed awake in high school civics class. Grandmother transcripts are actually read. Naturalization law misrepresentations are exposed.

As the truth starts to sink in from the labors of the fact checkers exposing lie after lie, painstakingly debunking the anti-Obama smears, and as reasonable people come to the realization that the existing Obama Birth Certificate is legit (attested to by Hawaiian officials) and it plainly shows Obama was born in Honolulu, the next plan of attack is being prepared…

Obama’s mother likely brought Barack back from Kenya, claimed he was “born at home” and scammed US citizenship for him.

Source AlterMedia.info (altermedia.info is a white supremacist web site “news for people of European descent”.)

Exactly how she could have done that in the mere 4 days separating his birth and his birth registration, I cannot guess (probably they will claim that Obama is actually older than his certificate says). (Ignoring the fact that there’s no record of any trip to Kenya in the first place.)

This scenario creates a hypothetical scam that evades the plain statements on Obama’s certified document from Hawaii. This will keep the uproar going for that “long form” (which would show if he were born at home or in hospital). Of course when the long form comes out it will give more data points to be spun, misinterpreted, lied about and declared a fraud.

Anything to keep the stink going.

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OCD Links

As much as for my use as yours, I’m maintaining a list of web links useful for the Obama Citizenship Denial controversy.

Certificate Denial Refutation

Citizenship law and process debunking

Other Debunking links:

Obama Citizenship Denial proponents

Lawsuits

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ERROR! ERROR!

I had written on these pages (which I will correct as soon as I finish this) that the State of Hawaii had a law that allows Hawaiian residents to register infants born out of state. I cited the law, which I found on a State web site:

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.

(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

I thought I was TOUGH STUFF for finding this, that is, until someone pointed out that little “L 1982” indicating that the law wasn’t passed until 1982, a couple of decades after Obama was born.

I’m so embarrassed!

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